2010 Snowskates Pictures

[SnowskateFTW]

plus its smoothed out with a snowboard base grinder. Which makes it faster!

yo justin. how come u dont have a pro board?

[jongiambi]

Well I'm glad you didn't ditch concave entirely. I have been snow skating since 04 and I have always wanted a concave board. You say it might not make much of a difference but it sure cant make it worse. Anything that feels more like a skateboard I'm down with.

Anyways, the boards look amazing. I cant wait for it to show up in the mail.

[Alex Blais]

I originally didn't intend on posting this on here because I know most of you will find it inconceivable. I'm not looking to start a debate here, but I think this relates very strongly to the present situation.

Want to know the biggest myth in skateboarding? Or atleast one of the biggest. Concave helps flip tricks. You read it alright. You might think I am biased, seeing how we just took the concave off the stock boards, but if you look further and do your research, you will find that this is the truth.

I have read a lot about board building, watched lots of factory videos and talked with many experienced board builders from various skateboard/sowboard companies before starting Ambition. I remember stubmling upon a video that left me quite surprised, probably just as much as you are right now while reading the above lines. It was an interview with the owner of one of today's biggest skate brands (can't recall the name, sorry about that). He was the inventor of concave in skateboarding. The first concaved skateboard was actually a mistake, as the plies had changed humidty percentage and warped into a non-flat shape. They were pretty stoked on the result, mainly because of the extra strenght it gave to the boards and because it increased board feel and control. At the end of the video, he clearly states how it's a misconception that concave is there to help with flip tricks. Concave acts just like a spoon, it helps you stay on top of your board while giving a lot more strenght to the skate deck and helping you make tighter turns. It has nothing to do with the flipability of your board, actually the opposite would be even truer.

A few weeks ago I was talking to the research and developpment guy at Control Skateboards, probably one of the biggest (if not the biggest) skateboard manufacture in North America, as I was explaining him how we were incorporating concave to our boards. He brought up the same facts, and clearly suggested making sure our concave didn't extend to the "fliping" areas. He showed me 3D designs of skateboard moulds to show me how the regions where you foot flicks are intentionaly flattened out. This guy is a genious in skateboard mould design, he's been doing it for over 15 years and their company makes boards for 75% of the companies you see on the racks in your skate shop (ex. the highest quality Plan B decks). Look at a skateboard closely, and you will see this is true.

Transworld Business agrees: "strangely, when doing flip tricks, it is regarded to have a mellow concave over a medium-deep one"

This probably sounds impossible to you, because this misconception has been around for so long. Like I said, I'm not looking to start a debate. Just hoping to get some reflexion going. I'm just pointing it out because I know 99% of you were looking forward to the feature for "easier flip tricks". This is not to say concave is no good, it definately has benefits. We ditched those benefits because we felt they didn't apply as well to snowskates. Don't believe me? Do your reseach!

[jongiambi]

Im not going to debate with that, it sounds completely reasonable.

Concave may just come down to personal preference. I have ridden concave-less skateboards and I just really don't like the feel. Concave in some ways guides your feet on the board and can reduce toe drag. Im sure many people will agree with me on that.

I never said it helped flip tricks. Most flip tricks are done using downward force and not force out to the sides (so concave really wouldn't help). If you think about it, all that you said makes perfect sense. I just love the feel of raised edges on a board.

Again its personal preference. I know that its not needed on a Snowskate I would just prefer to have it.

Ambition rules nonetheless and ill still keep a concave- less Revo to kick around on.

[domk]

[complete speach that would just take lots of place]!

In longboarding we use concave to lock our feets when drifting in a corner (you dont want to slip off your board at 70km/h), so i guess that concave would be useful on boards like Alan Gerlach pro model that are used for mountain so your feets lock on the board like bindings without the hassle and you can turn better.

[bruce]

[quote="Alex Blais"] They were pretty stoked on the result, mainly because of the extra strenght it gave to the boards and because it increased board feel and control.

Concave acts just like a spoon, it helps you stay on top of your board while giving a lot more strenght to the skate deck and helping you make tighter turns. quote]

[jongiambi]

They were pretty stoked on the result, mainly because of the extra strenght it gave to the boards and because it increased board feel and control.

Concave acts just like a spoon, it helps you stay on top of your board while giving a lot more strenght to the skate deck and helping you make tighter turns. quote]

Exactly, its not really about better flip tricks at all.

[JuxSkateArtCo]

I think the boards look amazing, and with the four feet of snow that fell in the last day (literally) we are excited to get ours and start filming. As far as the decision of no concave let me weigh in if i could. Alex Blais came to me earlier seeing my opinion on the matter. He said that it simply wasn't effective, and so he made the decision to not include it. I think this is a very mature business decision, as Ambition is known for quality control on their products. Had this been premiere, the boards would have been released with concave, and not been up to par at all, but this is ambtion. Decision are based upon what is going to be the best possible product for the consumer. This does not refute the fact that concave was promised, or the reason for the concave, what this should come down to is that it was x'd because it just wasnt up to ambitions expectations.

I think thats more than admirable for a company to do. We are in good hands with AMBI. On a side note, bjorn does a double gripping process and adds concave and it works extremely well, maybe he can post his method online sometimes, so if you really want said concave, hit him up.


Ambition is a great company, not out to screw anyone, nor dissappoint. I can guarantee you will be satisfied with this years product. 100Percent!

[whokilledmyhooker]

im getting the smage. super pissed about the concave thing wtf

[AndrewChmielowski]

I honestly cannot figure out why everyone is so concerned about the removal of the concave. I think Alex knows whats best for the snowskates more than anyone else does.
Snowskating doesn't need concave just because skateboarding has it. They're two different sports.